{"id":7772,"date":"2011-06-28T16:33:10","date_gmt":"2011-06-28T20:33:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.raleighpublicrecord.org\/?p=7772"},"modified":"2011-06-28T17:41:38","modified_gmt":"2011-06-28T21:41:38","slug":"cityofraleighgmail-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theraleighcommons.org\/raleighpublicrecord\/news\/city-council\/2011\/06\/28\/cityofraleighgmail-com\/","title":{"rendered":"CityofRaleigh@gmail.com?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>CORRECTION APPENDED: Because of an editing error, the original article said it would cost the city $980,000 to implement the Microsoft system. That figure was for the Google system.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The City of Raleigh is considering a proposal to make Google its e-mail provider instead of its current Microsoft-based system. But the city will still use the \u201c@raleighnc.gov\u201d email addresses.<\/p>\n<p>At the Budget and Economic Development Committee meeting Tuesday, members listened to the proposal from City Manager Russell Allen, who said Google Apps for Government would save the city $480,000 during the next three years.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s the equivalent of three staff positions,\u201d said Allen.<\/p>\n<p>Among other benefits, moving to Google would include increasing mailbox size 70-fold, an intranet platform, internal video streaming and video chat, a higher level of security, a platform that would make it more efficient for staff to respond to public records requests and a disaster recovery system.<\/p>\n<p>The Google cloud system, as it\u2019s called, would keep all of the city\u2019s information in Google\u2019s data centers using its servers. This would enable the city to remove 12 servers from its own data center.<\/p>\n<p>The Microsoft Exchange email system would cost the city $1.4 million during the next three years. It would cost the city $980,320 to implement the new version of Google\u2019s system in the same period.<\/p>\n<p>Kimberly Nelson, Microsoft\u2019s egovernment executive director, challenged the numbers in the city\u2019s proposal. She said they are misleading and reflect the costs in a second bid that was submitted after the city asked them to include more capabilities than the current system provides.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat you\u2019re looking at there is really comparing apples to oranges,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Nelson said since the city already owns Microsoft software, it could transition to the latest version of Microsoft Exchange for $90,000.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIs it wise to spend money on something that you already own?\u201d Nelson said.<\/p>\n<p>She also said she didn\u2019t believe the city had the proper planning in place to implement a new system. Nelson went on to say that the transition costs always far exceed what is expected.<\/p>\n<p>Gail Roper, the city\u2019s chief information officer, defended their research and the proposal stating that they factored in all possible issues, including enough bandwith to run the system. She said the Microsoft figures also include costs that are unrelated to Microsoft, such as hardware upgrades.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI brought the cloud solution [to Raleigh] after discussions with chief information officers around the country,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Roper maintained that Google\u2019s proposal gave the city the best offer and that she stands by the proposal.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am so confused by these numbers that I couldn\u2019t even begin to make a decision today,\u201d Councilwoman Mary-Ann Baldwin said of the proposal.<\/p>\n<p>Committee members agreed to revisit the issue in a couple of weeks and requested more comprehensive information about what each program requires and the costs associated with it. Baldwin also asked that they provide estimates for further costs down the line.<\/p>\n<p>Members also requested that someone from North Carolina State University come talk to the committee. N.C. State implemented a Google-based e-mail system and continues to expand on it. The city of Winston-Salem also implemented a Google-based system; councilors asked city staff to find someone from that city\u2019s information technology department to field questions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The city might nix Microsoft in favor of Google Apps for Government for its e-mail system. 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